Francis Bacon


From: "Andrew Phelps" <>


Subject: Re: [PsySR-humanrights] Wormwood on Netflix: Frank Olson, CIA, LSD experiments

Date: Monday, December 25, 2017 3:15 PM



When I looked at setting up a socially responsible clinical practicum in Berkeley, 1970, I helped organize a meeting there of ~250 clinicians and interested individuals. I had hoped that a progressive coalition might develop, instead the majority argued for a clinical "re-set." The result was a cult-dominated process wrapped in "Radical Therapy," and the bottom source was the prevailing right-wing "mental health" polity akin to the concerns now under discussion.

That project collapsed in the early 80s and eventually the "responsible" polity, including PsySR, starting taking the lead role. Today, the impression would be, especially following the Hoffman Report, that the historical dynamics need more thoroughgoing critical engagement. Not just the destruction of Martín-Baró, the working suppression story of the advocacy of Paolo Freire, also the national security social dynamics in the name of "mental health," which embraced the "oppression" paradigm, notably in that period.

I'm good the discussion now develops.

My previous effort in that direction was insufficient, the concerns involved need more of a developed critical engagement.



Andrew Phelps



On Mon, 12/25/17, Pnl wrote:

This story, and the likelihood of it being a murder, is also discussed in the book version of Jon Ronson's _The Men Who Stare at Goats_ which is disarmingly humorous and focused on the weird interest in paranormal phenomena at high levels of the U.S. military, but also discusses some of the ways that "cute"-seeming First Earth Battalion stuff (see the book) eventually found itself being put to much creepier use in Guantanamo (like use of music to disorient detainees, experimental approach to causing suffering that can be plausibly denied, etc), and in that context Ronson discusses how the CIA's "funny" use of a drug for interrogation that "cute" hippies later adopted for personal enlightenment helped provide cover for things like murder made to look like suicide.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017, Srp wrote:

One of my covert-operative interviewees X (now deceased) worked on loan from the army to the OSS at the end of WW II. X had been trained to work with scientists and said he assisted Olson for a short period. Here is his 1995 account:

Yes. ..

The way that they depict the extermination was that he had committed suicide. But the truth of the matter was that he hadn’t committed suicide. It was a very careless and, what they thought, a meticulous way of exterminating a useless subject by the people he was working with.


Like other throwaway operatives with personality disorders, X would be discredited by authorities though.