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From: Andrew Phelps <>


Sent: Fri Jul 6, 18:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [RadPsyNet-Members] Re: Connection between stress and depression



The way the client/survivors are "behavior managed" is related to the social purposes of the managers. Thus Efg who was on this list and worked as a lead behavior manager in Tucson, AZ was fired because her approach to management contradicted the intentionality of her supervisor. "Social justice denial" didn't work well for her. [!]

Broadly speaking, our theory of behavior management does not include the "sociohistorical" critique of Vygotsky and Luria. Thus any feeling or intention that has "sociohistorical significance" is suspect and cause for exertion of control. That includes issues of "social class" and "culture," which typically interface with issues of human rights.

"Anger" is a typical feeling about social injustice.

On Fri Jul 6, 22:36, Fil sent:

what you're saying about pellets has nothing to do with managing emotions in my opinion, it's just a way of behaviour modification,

Which is emotional control, and given the disconnect around the "sociohistorical approach" also a logic for oppression.

and i feel that behavior can be modified (especially when one understands that the "reward" serves to change his or her behaviour and not necessarily thoughts and feelings) without even touching emotions, or, even worse, creating a bigger chaos and contradicting feelings.

Tolman's argument is contrary to [that] conventional behaviorist attitude. The point I quoted shows that he (a behavioral psychologist/researcher) found that there is a system of denial of the kind of feelings rats have, as they are being behavior managed.

The forensic clients at Delancey Street were inclined to identify with me on that "issue of feeling." And they appreciated that the denial that you are imposing here was being brought to the surface by my advocacy. Since this was a gathering of psychologists and students of psychology the context made the connection even more natural. :-)

what i wanted to say, is perhaps quite obvious, that we need to learn by ourselves how to deal with our negative emotions (by the way - which are those?..) the way that serves us best, minimizes harm done to others and doesn't create new negative feelings such as shame for example.

That is off point, in regards the situation I was describing. [One needs] much stronger emotional engagement to take on systematic oppression such as that structured by the conditioning of reflexes.


ABO "Andrew Behavior Object"