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From: "'target'"


Subject: Re: [psysr-disc] 'Where Hell Is Other Patients'

Date: Thu, November 13, 2014 10:08 pm



I'm somewhat familiar with your approach to practice and I'm generally good with that.

The difficulty is related to culture and science. The term "mental illness" is a pretence at science. The "madhouse" term operates in the same cultural framework and engages a similar stereotypy. The problem is [1] to go over to "learning and compassion" and then [2] to transcend the prevailing (and discriminatory) cultural framework and develop the capacity to operate from the phenomenology using an actual scientific paradigm. So Foucault must be read in a deeper kind of way and the humanist and scientific perspective forthcoming needs to be built up systematically as has been done in large part in Trieste.

On Thu, November 13, 2014 1:10 pm, Ttt wrote:

I knew about Foucault and the term was used when I was a child when they took anyone who acted peculiar and put them in the insane asylum. When the next side show came to town they put them in tents and charged people to go in and see them. And yes, it certainly could and still can cause rage which comes from the shame that the person is made to feel. I know about the shame and rage that came from my abuse as a child ..

I decided to help myself. I took courses in psychology and social sciences through West Virginia University extension service. I had to take them for audit because I was not a high school graduate but I learned a lot and have continued to build on it through the years ..

That's practical for today's conditions; that is however based on making the best of your experience with learning conventional psychology The direction we need to take is to promote "science" and Foucault's critique of oppression. I posted about the conference in Trieste on Basaglia's Vision which takes place in December. As you know, I worked with Thomas Scheff, a student of Goffman, who helped lead the fight against "labelling" in the 70s, who then went to "shame" in his sociology of emotion to explain the confusion related to the prevailing "mental illness" approach.

Thus I'm speaking to the humanist effort to engage stereotypy and work well with tropes in general. Perhaps others on the list can render clearly the connection to "humanist psychology" and the new turn towards Diagnosis Alternatives.




BTW, One may look here for my article with Thomas Scheff: "The Challenge of Bonding, Shame, and Social Death"