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From: "Andrew Phelps" <>

Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:52:57 -0700

Subject: Re: [s-acc] Donald's denial


Moq, and Abc:

A couple of years back, I taught at a community college where the goose was the animal one met on arrival at campus. While students and faculty also participated in campus life, the geese were clearly the dominant social form there. [!]

Moq wrote:

If it looks like a duck (and I don't mean an Oregon college football team), and it acts like a duck and it smells like a duck and it quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck then it must be a .. Republican!

At Haverford where I attended (class of 65) we had a duck pond and the "business" problem was "getting the ducks in line." There is - in other words - a "Quaker" issue (Haverford is a Friends college) in addition to a "Republican" issue (the township was registered Republican 10-1).

Some of us aquatic fowl can actually "pass" for normal on a good day. Does that mean we've become assimilated or that we've educated those around us to accept our fowlness as "normal?" Maybe there's a new social role for us (quasi-duck) or that no one just gives a damn. I'll bet if a flock of us were to fly overhead and share the excrement, they'd give a damn. Is that occupy?

The biology of lived experience challenges the "biological science" claim of psychiatry.

What if "they" are just really geese in disguise, also trying to pass for "normal?" Would the Emperor Goose be revealed as featherless?

I do think the "duck" problem is well worth the discussion. At Anaheim, Mickey was backed by the agenda of Project Return, which is now challenging to take over the California Network (and thus to keep the client/survivor movement in "behavior managed" mode). In Orlando, Mickey lined up with elitist leadership which has a history of radical irresponsibility. In Portland, Donald may not come forward as "Emperor Goose" but surely we need to get some insight into behavioral expectations that obtain.

In Anaheim, we also saw Pam Hyde apologize publicly and in Orlando, Abc and I took to the Orlando Occupy to get the measure of the situational narrowness. The ongoing concerns of the 1% will surely obtrude in the Portland experience: We cannot reasonably expect "pepper spray" but our "quacking" will likely be confused with "quackery." Our stress on "responsibility" runs contrary to anxieties deriving from "good duck" expectations regarding process, however - I'd hope. One note is that I spoke the other day with a [local]Counseling Psychologist [there] and he saw the possibility of involving students there in "helping the ducks line up" at Alternatives.


ABO "Andrew Behavior Object"