Freudian slippers


To: Mental Health Activism and Advocacy <>

From: Andrew Phelps <>

Date: Sat Jun 2 16:10:39 EDT 2012

Subject:  Re: [Actmad] is ‘likely to become’ a ‘precautionary principle’?



Your concern seems to me to be “right on.”

On Sat Jun 2 18:08, Yza sent:

“The precautionary principle or precautionary approach states that if an action or policy has a suspected risk of causing harm to the public or to the environment, in the absence of scientific consensus that the action or policy is harmful, the burden of proof that it is not harmful falls on those taking the action.”

That perspective in behavior management reflects a wider perspective in national security called the “psychology of terrorism.”

Whenever I hear this, I think of TAC/Torrey/Jaffe and their desire to medicate and monitor their loved ones and others based on 'likely to become'.

Their philosophies do indeed lean on the same kind of philosophical underpinnings as the present “crisis in national security.” Thus Torrey wrote about Ezra Pound in his “lived experience” put-up at St. Elizabeth's and today, the facility has been taken over as Admin. for Homeland Security. [!]

I am understanding 'controlling to prevent' as just the same as the 'precautionary principle'. We'll act 'in case' or not act' in case'  ..  None of this seems very wise to me. It seems like preventing tomorrow, preventing risk, over-determining, clinging to what is known and now, disbelieving any knowledge greater than our collective own,  ..

As long as the othering of our advocacy is psychoanalytic (maybe we didn't get that infant passion quite right) then that kind of psychology is “good business.” We need a more critical engagement with the “madness” psychology, such as the “clinical gaze critique” of Foucault.

I'm not sure where to take this conversation - I'm not trying to deny global warming and the impact of humans on the environment ... There seem to me consequences that haven't been considered if there are too many precautions and too little risk.

Again, well said. With the Afghanistan failure, we are moving from the “lie, cheat, and steal” social dynamic (sometimes called “Yuppie think”) to a new level of cultural collapse.

My own view is that we need to develop a deeper understanding of how to take social responsibility. That will change how we engage ‘is likely to become’.


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