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From: "Andrew Phelps" <>



Date: Mon, December 28, 2015 2:48 pm



The traditional standard in social work has been (version roughly stated, not speaking as 'clinician'):

  1.   protect the victim (generally female)
  2.   set up victim in safe space
  3.   when situation is judged operative, reach out to perpetrator
  4.   consider assistance for learning by perpetrator.

In 2003 at the APA Toronto meeting I was sitting at a Div. 35 workshop on research regarding making "battering" a possible DSM category. Finally, the person sitting next to me (Lisa Cosgrove, U. Mass Boston Counseling) jumped up, ran to the microphone, and said, "I don't know which is worse, battering and abuse, or psychiatric diagnosis!"

My point, as a "client/survivor" activist, would be that concerns for "institutional betrayal trauma" (Jennifer Freyd) and other politically related dynamics must be engaged, should we wish to pull together critically the advocacy being promoted in the present message. See here.

I also agree with Ttt that there is a problem that needs to be meaningfully addressed, regarding 'male' and 'child' victims of domestic violence. And I would speak further, from my lived experience as a "male child," and in regards the "intimate partner" dynamic of my family of origin.



Andrew Phelps

On Mon, 12/28/15, Fvs wrote

When most of the distressed and embarrassed men actually try to sought help, they were told “we only help women here and not men.’’ There are so many myths and misconceptions about domestic abuse experienced by male victims at the hands of female perpetrators. The damaging behavior by female perpetrators is often underestimated and overlooked, leaving men in silent distress. I carried out my investigations and the outcome was that there were so many service providers for women and female victims, rightly so, that when I sought out other information for male clients experiencing abuse by their partners, there were little resources.