From: Andrew Phelps <>


Subject: Re: [s-acc] Re: trauma sensitivity

Date: Fri 04/26/13 01:38 PM



The timing was indeed sensitive. However the event did take place and five members of the Social Accountability Work Group were among the 80 persons in attendance.

On Wed Apr 24 0:48, Abc sent:

I went through SFO on my way to Ukraine on the 23rd, does that count .. or do you have a brochure?

No brochure. I have a recording of Paula's discussion, however. It's [greater than] 1MB but I can send to you (or others) privately. Write HERE, don't post to the list regarding that.

.. in case I missed the context, (which is the case for almost anything that I am exposed to nouveau) .. define "instrumental and classical" conditioning, or reference the posts or url's that would point me in the right direction to gain use of the concepts or contact the elements described.

Those notions of patterns of behavior are taught at an elementary level in (so-called) behavioral psychology. Roughly the instrumental case (from, e.g. Skinner) offers the behavior objects rewards ("pellets") for "good behavior" and punishments (no "pellets," then worse) for "bad behavior." The classical case (from e.g. Pavlov) relates to "stimulus replacement" where behavior is constructed by substituting the "conditioned" stimulus for the original "unconditioned" stimulus: The behavior object now responds to the new stimulus the way [that] that object previously responded to the old one.

Wiki will explain much more.

In terms of our conversations (yours and mine), the social dynamic of Starbucks tends to be "instrumental" from the business model, whereas Peet's tends to operated on the "classical" dynamic (my judgment).

The event Wednesday was pretty much a success.