Rutgers Preparatory School


From: Andrew Phelps <>


Subject: RE: [PsySR-humanrights] (FYI) Obama Goes Public With Brain-Mapping Plan

Date: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 9:35 PM


On Thu, 4/4/13, Eee wrote:

I always say that one thing Iím hoping that dialog about the torture/interrogation issue will lead to is to begin a much needed discussion on the ethical foundations of our work in other areas, such as marketing. How far do we want to let people be manipulated? And what can, should, and will we do about transgression of those limits?

Norma started with the social practice of the clinical system. Before she began her project, she co-authored with Jack Block the book "Lives Through Time."

I don't believe that that long-term study show that "treatment is good." Rather it shows in a complex manner the impact of the manipulation of people under the clinical system.

I do believe - speaking as a critical psychology advocate - that Norma's insight can be developed to engage the "can, should, and will" parameters that you suggest. And those "transgressions" do need to be more accurately noted and identified.

I'd also say that the "Edward Bernays" issue regarding "marketing" does not fully touch upon the complexity. The "impact" of the manipulation there is broad and tends to promote stereotype-driven outcomes.


ABO "Andrew Behavior Object"